Posts by Village Idiot

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The elders of the 1980s are now in their 60s and 70s

by truthseeker in

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having just come back from the uk and spoke with some witnesses to find out how my old congregation is doing, i realized i am now the age that my elders were when i was a kid.

and i wonder what the elders who are now in their 60s and 70s are thinking when they look in the mirror and an old face looks back at them.

many of the elders in my old hall are now retired.

Village Idiot

The elders of the 1980s are now in their 60s and 70s

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What went wrong in your congregation?

by The Rebel in

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the target is converts.. why does it seem such an outrageous aim for a congregation to recruit new converts?.

in my old congregation, the enthusiasm was there but the knocking on doors produced zero " baptisms" in my final years.. a) why so little interests?.

b) was it the internet ?.

"Jehovah's people previously had the understanding that Moses had stone tablets (insert scripture here) today it is evidently clear that Moses had IPads (insert out of context scripture here from the revised bible) leading us to believe it was indeed Jehovah created this wonderful tool."

“I tell you,” he replied, “if they keep quiet, the tablets will cry out.” Luke 19:40, - Future Revised NWT

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Caught in LIE Head of Bethel Australia service desk Rodney Spinks by Angus Stewart Australia Investigation day 6

by Watchtower-Free in

sixth day of live testimony .

this bethelite head of service desk at australia jehovah's witnesses headquarters lied under oath and is caught here by by angus stewart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6lwmalzc-s.

Village Idiot

The Watchtower is always changing it's procedures so it's understandable that he would be asked if there was a change. However I would have asked Spinks why he was doing things differently than the Flock book.

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Caught in LIE Head of Bethel Australia service desk Rodney Spinks by Angus Stewart Australia Investigation day 6

by Watchtower-Free in

sixth day of live testimony .

this bethelite head of service desk at australia jehovah's witnesses headquarters lied under oath and is caught here by by angus stewart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6lwmalzc-s.

Village Idiot

If I understand this correctly Spinks is implying that his procedure would be different than the Shepherd the Flock book. Of course, the elders don't have that latitude.

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How many here believed, down deep in your heart that the end would come in 1975?

by James Mixon in

i was straddling the fence on that one, just in case they were right.

i don't recall.

telling anyone this is your last chance.

Village Idiot

I was 15-16 in 1975 after having been a witness for 2 years. I was deep into the chronology bit but it wasn't 1975 that affected me, it was the 1914+generation that I emphasized to myself.

It was around 1974 that I went to a large special meeting to hear a talk given by none other than Fred Franz. In front of 10,000 people he gave a long winded talk explaining his panoramic view of history from Creation till the end times.

He explained the 7,000 year creation days and tied it in with the 6,000 year chronology starting with the creation of Adam and Eve and ending with Armageddon. He explained that there was an "Adam and Eve gap" that made the exact day or month of Armageddon impossible to predict but that the end would come within months to a few years of 1975. He specifically said it would not take decades for that to happen because that would have meant that Adam was alone for such a long period of time that he would have been "tempted into bestiality." He posed a rhetorical question saying "Would Jehovah allow Adam to be tempted into bestiality?" Then he answered his own question and said "No brothers and sisters".

I remember recording that talk but I have no idea where that tape cassette is or if I even still have it.

I also remember being in the Kingdom Hall during the theocratic ministry school when they read the Kingdom Ministry program that spoke of people selling their houses to preach in the short time available and encouraging it.

I lasted until 1980. It wasn't until a few years after I had dropped my Watchtower persona that I read detailed rebuttals by "apostates" on the entire JW Chronological voodoo. Nothing surprised me about it.

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disfelloshiped treated worse then lepers

by poopie in

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wow lepers could at least cry out unclean unclean

Village Idiot

I guess we can cry out "apostate, apostate!"

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What woke you up?

by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

in march of 2014, i was a very active jw, a ministerial servant, gave a public talk, was an attendant for the memorial, and one of 4 cleaning captains for an international convention of 40,000+ attendees.

so what woke me up?

an innocent comment from a co-worker about the candice conti court case rang a bell that could not be unrung.

Village Idiot

What did it to me was the organization's self worship. It took me a few years, during my adolescence, before I realized that it wasn't the "Truth" more because of their attitude than because of any doctrines. Had I possessed some of their old literature (I was beginning to build up a collection) I would have been out even earlier.

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What went through your mind when you saw this Picture?

by John Aquila in

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Village Idiot

SafeAtHome, that illustration depicts an event that's supposed to occur after the Millennium where some of Paradise's people turn wicked and threaten those who are faithful.

The idea is based on this scripture from the book of Revelation:

7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. Revelation 20:7-9 New International Version

I remember seeing that illustration in two different places though I can't remember where. I think the image from the book that John Aquila took it from was recycled from some earlier literature. It does look 1960ish in it's artwork.

It's confusing because it mentions Gog and Magog which names are used in a different context in JW teaching.

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I'm 16 and I might be pregnant In a JW household

by NYsweet16 in

okay, i don't even know where to start.

i'm 16, i live in a strict jw household and i know if i am pregnant (which is a big possibility) ..i know i'm doomed to a life of misery.

not because of my baby but because of my family and the isolation and judgement from the congregation.

Village Idiot

Accidentally hit the "like" for Sofia Lose post. That should have been a "dislike".

Edit: Never mind, it got fixed.

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What went through your mind when you saw this Picture?

by John Aquila in

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Village Idiot

sparrowdown:

"VI - maybe he just hates having to wear a green sweater for eternity."

Since the water canopy will be put back in place, with the inevitable greenhouse effect, it must be stifling hot in that sweater. In any case we're spared their nudity.